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CONVERSATIONS WITH ROBERT CHU - by Alan Orr

First published in UK Martial Arts Illustrated July 2003

This month I would like to share a discourse on Body Structure with my teacher Robert Chu Sifu. Many people email my teacher and myself with questions on this area every month. My teacher has even written an excellent article on the subject, giving various structure tests. You can find it on his web site www.chusaulei.com. So, why do we need to readdress this subject?


Well, firstly, most of the feedback from the tests show most could pass a few of them, but no one could pass them all. Some fellow practitioners on the path began to think whilst others felt insecure and attacked the idea of Body Structure. You see, when we come to a crossroads on our path we must be brave and look ahead with clear eyes.

If you are challenged by a new idea and you find it hard to do or understand, then you must be humble enough to step back and learn how to see from this new perspective. This does not always mean that you drop everything and forget all you know. What it means is do not dismiss what you do know or understand. Once you have an understanding then give your constructive response. Note that I used the word ‘constructive’; this is even if you then do not agree whole-heartedly at least then contribute something which adds positively to the original question.

When I first met with my teacher Robert Chu I was given the tests. Having studied Wing Chun for over 12 years at the time you would think I would have done pretty well. I thought I would have done too, but I think I could only complete two out of four and they where the easy ones! I recall my teacher gave me those ones to give me a mental choice. You see, what happens when you pass half is some will say ‘I passed most of it’ and others will say ‘I failed most of it’. Now which of these is the positive mind? The positive mind set would normally be ‘I passed most of it’ but it this case that would be the damaged ego looking for something to soften the blow. So would holding your head down and saying ‘I failed most of it’ be the positive mind set? No, that’s not it either. The positive mind set would be to say ‘I failed the tests, so what do I need to learn in order to understand them?’ This is the question I asked.

Now, I am not saying it was easy. I am not saying that I didn’t feel slightly down-hearted for a few seconds, I did. But I also felt excited. I also felt I was about to learn something which would change my training forever and it did! Since that sunny day in LA, I have never looked at martial arts in the same way. The skill I have always looked for was within my vision and I had found a teacher who knew what I was missing and was willing to teach it. How could I not be happy! It has taken a long time to develop this skill, but that’s the fun of hard training. So, with all this in mind, let’s take a deeper look into the Body Structure Methods as taught by my teacher Robert Chu.


Alan:
Sifu, what would you say are the main components of Body Structure?

Chu Sifu: Body structure is very important - without it, one isn’t doing Wing Chun properly. Body structure consists of four components:

1) It is the attacking base
2) it is the defence base,
3) it is the method of linking to issue force and
4) it is the methods of delinking to protect our position.



"This is the line of vector force which does not utilise rooting power. Punching in this way puts excessive force on the rotor cuff. These muscles are designed for stabilising the shoulder joint, not for generating force."



"This is the most effective way to punch if you want to utilise full body structure. The vector force travels through the elbow and hip, directly to the ground,therefore not damaging the shoulder joint."

Many think that having structure is only linking up and aligning the proper body mechanics to issue force, but as you can see, it is more than that. Through the tests that I devised in Wing Chun Kuen, a student can easily see his level of development in this basic area. One thing that people don’t get is that the tests are dynamic and have immediate practical value in application of Wing Chun. For example, a variation of my test number one is while standing in the basic stance of WCK, one performs the basic straight punch. The testee has all of the tester’s weight on his fist, to see if he can withstand that force. If the testee’s stance is able to absorb the force, you then have to see if the fist strikes out only with shoulder strength, or is it of the entire body as a unit? Properly done, it is only with the entire unit of the body that one can do this exercise.

Alan: How would you explain linking and delinking?

Chu Sifu: Linking is the proper alignment of the body’s resources to issue force. With linking, we are creating a combined sum of vector forces so that when we strike an opponent, we have the entire body’s power to strike an opponent down effectively, economically, and effortlessly. With our alignment in Wing Chun Kuen, people cannot see our power base; it is too subtle to see. Martial arts like Chen Tai Ji or Ba Ji have excellent power, yet they have to wind up, in order to release significant force, and their power releases are quite obvious. Because WCK is small frame, we hide our wind up – in essence, we hammer our opponent with the structure through our attacking tool. Many people don’t develop the proper power in issuing force in WCK – they generally strike with the isolated force of their shoulders, which can still be devastating and effective, but it is not the full potential of body linking.

Delinking is when we are in trouble and we need to preserve our attack and defensive base. In this case, we avoid giving up our positioning, and "bait" our opponent with falseness. For example, if our opponent grabs our wrist, we give up just enough force to deceive him, let him think that he has control of us, when in reality we have perfect control and strike him down. We never allow his grab to offset our balance, and our economy of motion.

Alan: Why is linking and delinking so important?

Chu Sifu: It is the essence of Wing Chun Kuen, where one can express the art’s subtleties. By being able to practise in this manner, it changes and varies the way one can execute WCK. Many talk about how "original" their style is, or how "superior" their style is, but they are missing the boat. Who cares about this? This is all empty talk if you cannot do your WCK properly and utilise it properly. In my opinion, one isn’t doing WCK at all, if it's not with structure. One can change forms or sequences, but one cannot change the proper power base and mechanical signature of WCK.

We should not forget WCK is a martial art, designed for combat efficiency. The art provides one with the skill to end conflict with a minimum of effort and damage to your self. Without structure, you are not optimising your skill.

We see certain styles favour mobility and concern themselves regarding position, but with proper Wing Chun Kuen structure and timing in application, one should be able to shut off the opponent’s attack immediately – so that there is no counter from your opponent, no grappling, joint locks, ground fighting, or counterstrike. You simply shut down their system, by destroying your opponent’s attacking base. If your opponent has no structure, they will immediately crumble, and allow you to enter and finish them.

An example of this is our basic WCK concept called tan da. Some WCK people position to an angle to execute this concept, but in my opinion, if you have structure, you can simply smash into your opponent’s attack, breaking his structure and shutting off any further attacks from your opponent. You are smothering and shutting off the opponent in one beat! There is no need to stay artificially far – you are striking through your opponent and shutting him down. If the opponent has no defensive base structure, he will be reeling backwards opening himself up to more attacks from you, or unable to continue.

If your opponent has a good defensive structure, then your energy will be nullified and energy passed through his structure into the ground harmlessly, just as a lightning bolt strikes a lightning rod. Only a person with an understanding of structure will understand my words here.

What I am saying requires a lot of confidence and ability to do, but it is the most efficient means of combat – no excessive posturing, moving, or angling, one simply goes in and does the job in one beat. When you see photos of other demonstrating WCK, you can see if the distance is really too far for fighting. If one has structure, they compress themselves between the earth and their opponent and topple the opponent’s structure immediately.

Alan: When attacking base and defence base are we also using linking and delinking concepts?

Chu Sifu: Exactly! With linking and delinking, there are components of attack and defence. So there is a linking and delinking form of attack and a linking and delinking form of defence.

In a linking attack, the body is one unit, and smashes into the opponent with deceptive force. In delinking attack, the entire unit is separate; we may choose to use a stunning blow with a portion of our power, to set up for a power blow.

In linking defence, we defend using structure; that is, we are one unit. An example of this is using the WCK concept of Gaun Sao – we can stop a round kick with the force of our one unit. In delinking defence, we may give our opponent our arm, but we do not give up our structure.

Alan: Wing Chun is well known for close range combat, but without control of Body Structure it can become unstuck when under pressure. Do you think the understanding of Body Structure is the missing link in terms of controlling your opponent in combat rather than just trying to hit a lot?

Chu Sifu: Yes, exactly! Without body structure, most WCK practitioners are gambling strikes or trading strikes, even if they try to make up their deficiencies with additional footwork. With body structure, one sets up the strikes on the opponent, and the strikes never miss because you are in control of the time, position, relative space, target, and combat relationship. Most people in WCK are missing this ability, so they are in my terms only using delinked defence or delinked offense. Few would really know how to do optimal linking offense or defence without the proper training in the WCK body structure methods under a qualified instructor. I have seen many WCK practitioners – in general, they are missing this vital component. I would only say a handful of WCK people would be able to do body structure optimally. It’s not their fault that they learn WCK without this – they generally concentrate on the shape of WCK, rather than the essence of WCK. In other words, it looks like WCK, but it isn’t simply because the power base signature is missing.

Alan: As we are both acupuncturists, I have noticed that striking pressure points is a lot more achievable when you have control of the opponent’s structure, as you seem to have a timing advantage when your opponent is trying to regain balance rather than defend. Do you think having control of Body Structure was the original delivery method of striking pressure points?

Chu Sifu: Body structure is the only way a WCK practitioner delivers force properly. In acupuncture, we tap the needle with enough force to insert it into the patient. In WCK, we are tapping with our body structure to insert our ging (power) into our opponent. If you have this method, you have total control of your opponent, or flow in accordance with the opponent, and you can strike them at will with your skill. In high levels, one can strike the opponent according which points present at the moment, or you can set up for what you want to strike and which channels you want to disrupt, or you attack the open points based on chronoacupuncture theory, or strike the points that have the optimal, most lethal, effect according to your system. In WCK, we strike along the centreline, but few realise there is a flow and pouring of the chi (qi) at certain time at certain points along the centreline of the Ren and Du channels. The chart below is an example of those points. By striking those points with the open channel of the time, an opponent will be in grave danger. Of course, information like this should not misused.

Time Watch Channel Du/Ren Open Point

11 pm - 1 am Zi GB Ren 1
1 - 3 am Chou Liv Du 2
3 - 5 am Yin Lu Du 4
5 - 7 am Mao LI Du 8
7 - 9 am Chen St Du 12
9 – 11 am Si Sp Du 16
11am – 1pm Wu H Du 20
1 – 3 pm Wei SI Du 26
3 –5 pm Shen UB Ren 22
5 – 7 pm You K Ren 17
7 – 9 pm Xu Pc Ren 12
9 – 11 pm Hai SJ Ren 4

I believe that if one learns a system correctly, the power base develops along with the training. So whether if someone has learned Shuai Jiao, Ba Ji, Tai Ji, or Hung Gar, they should learn the power base first in the fundamental exercises. This is not to say that studying other systems will give you the proper power release signature of WCK. Only training in proper Wing Chun will provide you with the proper power signature. In WCK, it should be with the fundamental set, siu nim tao.

Alan: Why do you think some members of the Wing Chun family are so defensive when you talk about structure in Wing Chun? Surely anything that improves ones skill is must-know information?

Chu Sifu: One would think so… I think because this information has been only passed on from masters to select students that it is not known to the Wing Chun family as a whole, and as such, this would reveal the lack of depth in the knowledge of certain "grandmasters". Some that I met don’t have this knowledge at all, even when they claim to have studied internal martial arts. You cannot fake the Wing Chun power signature. You either have it or don’t. One cannot compensate with local shoulder strength. And it is only developed through proper practice of WCK.
I think defensiveness of some Wing Chun family members comes when people are insecure. Of course in the martial arts, many insecure people flourish and are attracted to the arts to try to overcome their insecurities. Old habits are hard to kill…

Alan: Thank you Sifu for your insights into Body Structure within Wing Chun.

Chu Sifu: Thank you, Alan. It is my sincere hope that people can take value in this, and can cross over from ignorance to wisdom in the methods of proper body structure.

 

Alan Orr is a disciple of Robert Chu Sifu and the European representative of the Chu Sau Lei Wing Chun system.

He is also the UK representative for Guro Mark Wiley in the Filipino martial arts and Sensei Eddy Millis of Shark Tank in NHB/Grappling.

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